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greazer
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| Rick wrote: |
| Lose an hour off the running and you'ld be around the top 10. |
You must be joking! Or you just don't know the least bit about running...  |
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Mikey-two-Names
Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:40 pm Subject: |
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| Big respect to Roger, I'm most impressed too! All the same, your running performance wasn't at the same level of your skating. |
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Rick
Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:37 pm Subject: |
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| greazer wrote: |
| Rick wrote: |
| Lose an hour off the running and you'ld be around the top 10. |
You must be joking! Or you just don't know the least bit about running... |
I was highlighting the size of the task. I know quite a bit about running. I used to do triathlons in my younger, lighter years and have trained with some marathon runners. I was never much good at the longer distances after I turned 20 as my size played havoc with my joints. I don't run or swim any more.
Let's look at it from a training target point of view:
Roger did the marathon in 4h22. It is not unrealistic for him to train for it and be able to do one in a considerably shorter time if that is his aim. Possibly not 3h22 but 3h45 would be not be an unreasonable target.
4h22 is 262 minutes that's 10 minute miles. Every minute a mile faster gets more difficult to achieve but takes nearly half an hour off the overall time. If you can train to run at an 8 minute pace (7.5mph, 12kph) for short distances and then longer ones, then you are looking at a time of 210mins or 3h30 mins. It won't happen without specific training but that level of pace for a fit person that trains for it is perfectly doable. It's more than 50% slower than the winners. Not sure how doable after doing a skate marathon the day before.
A typical running marathon training programme is 6 months long. I can get some plans from my running friends if anyone is interested but I expect there are online guides. Over that period of time you work on a great many things from sprinting to controlled distances at fixed speeds to develop your top speed to just jogging long distances to dietary control and cross training exercises in a gym. Your aim just as in skating for a finish time is to develop a higher sustainable speed and then to get your body into exactly the right condition to perform on the day. Like I said, doing a skate marathon the day before is likely to mess things up as you won't find it in any of the training guides. It's not rocket science, it's hard work and enormous self-discipline. It's not fun either unless you can get one of those endorphin kick runner's highs. Then it becomes addictive and not running is depressing.
I would not recommend doing this to anyone that doesn't really want to test themselves to their limit. Same for doing an iron-man which I have never even considered. |
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Adam B(GMF)
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:09 am Subject: |
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7. More safety for inline skaters
The almost too warm weather for the runners was perfect for the skaters and led to many personal bests, for which we would like to offer our congratulations. Unfortunately, crashes also are a part of inline skating, which hopefully were not too bad for most of you. For the others, we wish you speedy healing. We will be evaluating the numerous emails and contributions in the forums for ways to improve the safety - to start, the block start will be altered, and the safety warnings along the course will be improved.
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Rick
Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:52 pm Subject: |
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| You may notice the results of the Berlin Marathon are now "adjusted" on the ergebnisse link. They now give your finish position not just in male/female category but in an overall combined position. They place in class position for everyone is also a lot lower than the first published results suggested. Why? Because they have eliminated the 5 year age thingy and given results in 10 year groups only. Doesn't explain why people in the MAk/WAk groups have lower places though as there should still be the same number of skaters in those groups. |
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Mikey-two-Names
Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:46 pm Subject: |
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| Yeah, they did the same thing last year. My guess is the pros results were added in, I've no idea really. |
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roger
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:10 pm Subject: |
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Another difference with the new statistics is that you can now list all the GBR entries together - over 50 of them! And I am third  |
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