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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:42 am    Subject: Dooring and the door zone. Reply with quote

Last night on the ICIBIN skate one skater was very nearly doored.  He only missed by inches after a pretty incredibly agile leap, and that prompted me to write this article:

Dooring and the door zone.

It's not the first time I've seen skaters going IMO way too close to parked cars.  Don't do this, it's an excellent way to get injured by hitting the door, or being thrown or swerving into passing traffic.  Same goes for cycling.
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tanya g
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:57 am    Subject: Reply with quote

That was indeed an incredibly agile leap.  I would guess that the majority of the other skaters there (who were all v good) wouldn't have made it.  A few skaters had already moved past the car and half the pack were still behind, so the person should have seen us.  

I know a few skaters that have had doors smashed into them, one even got hit when they were moving through traffic that was stopped for lights and a passenger decided to get out.
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Rick



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:05 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Twas me in november or december.
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:09 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Yes, sorry to post it here as well as SR.com, but I'd rather make sure everyone got to know how dangerous dooring really is.
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tanya g
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:18 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I know two people then  Sad
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:24 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Faris was lucky it was you he jumped in front of, not a car.
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dan_b



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:46 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I am aware that for some (or more likely, no) reason I'll do much more filtering on skates than I ever did on a bike.  Mostly though I'm not moving much faster than walking pace if I'm inside the door zone.

But the lovely lovely thing about skating is that with a reasonable stride, when I want to take a lane (most of my commute to work I'm moving at the same speed or faster than the traffic) it stays taken.  Theory of Big, innit
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lemming



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:22 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Just out of interest, if it was timed right and you went into a door that was open ('cos someone opened it on you and you didn't have time to move or whatever) do you think you could rip it off, or bend it back and damage the car?  

Not sure whose responsibility this would be in that case?  could make for an amusing situation
:edit: OK, so I've read Mike's thing now, so it would be their fault.  

Angry car owner going you've broken my door off and skaters going well you shouldn't have opened it on me then...
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:26 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Theory of big is very good, works well on bikes.  I'm less sure on skates though, sometimes the cagers seem to come awfully close to my foot at the end of a stride.
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lemming



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:31 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

It probably isn't so applicable 'cos of teh motion - our legs swing out a lot furthe than our bodies, so it's harder to know how close to pass by..  

I like theory of big though.
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peterc



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:11 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

lemming wrote:
Just out of interest, if it was timed right and you went into a door that was open ('cos someone opened it on you and you didn't have time to move or whatever) do you think you could rip it off, or bend it back and damage the car?


You have a lot of leaverage, but the attachemnt bolts/pins are quite thick, so if nothing else it's going to spring alot.

But that is dependent on you hitting the door, get it slightly wrong and you hit the metal edge, at that stage all bets are off, and at best you can match war wounds with David.

I wouldn't try it, if I had to at least having a big sweaty skater bounce into the car with them might make them think again.

Think Feris did the right thing.
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dogsbody



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:08 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me on a bike many years ago, I still have the lump in my collar bone to prove it  Confused She was a driving instructor and asked "where did you come from?" I wasn't in the best of moods but mainly as she had made me squash the KFC I had just picked up and had in my rucksack!  Rolling Eyes

Dooring and the door zone wrote:
Cyclecraft says: "Never cycle closer than 5 feet from a parked car".
I'm not sure how feasable this is in real life, especially in London!
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Natasha



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:39 pm    Subject: Re: Dooring and the door zone. Reply with quote

ls_mike wrote:
Last night on the ICIBIN skate
I've never been one for acronyms (still, at least I'm not colour-blind!) What the $%£^& is ikkybin?
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dan_b



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:51 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Supposed to be the "I Can't Believe It's Not Suicide" Skate.  Dunno where the extra "I" came from.
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Rick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:01 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it's appropriate. There were certainly ICey BINS this morning.
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