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ConeKicker



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:29 am    Subject: First Inline Marathon Reply with quote

So, it's on to my first ever inline marathon in May. I don't think my fitness 'n' stuff is gonna improve to any major extent before May, but I'm sure I'm missing a lot of the race etiquette.

Can any you guys 'n' gals throw a few tips my way such as 'do this' or 'don't do' that. Start slow/fast, expect to come last and so on.

Being a 'one-man-skate-team' Smile .. is it OK to join the pace line (slip stream?) of others?

Any advice taken with much appreciation Smile

Thanks people.
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Rick



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:04 am    Subject: Reply with quote

PM sent. It's a lot so absorb for one race so you won't make the right decisions first time or in good time but it should help to you recognise the situation and take the right course of action.

First race is all about finishing. Then you have a benchmark for your next one. Try to enjoy it or you may not come back for more.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:06 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
PM sent. It's a lot so absorb for one race so you won't make the right decisions first time or in good time but it should help to you recognise the situation and take the right course of action.

First race is all about finishing. Then you have a benchmark for your next one. Try to enjoy it or you may not come back for more.


Excellent, just about covers everything I was concerned about.

Cheers Rick.

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Van



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:36 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Is it LIM you are talking about? If so, there are still 7 weeks to go which is plenty of time to increase your weekly milelage and improve your fitness. As Rick says, first marathon just make sure you enjoy the experience, though I find key to this is ensuring that you are in decent enough shape to skate the distance without killing yourself. I find streetskates are NOT good preparation for skating a marathon, as you never skate for more than a few minutes at a time before stopping where you can catch you breath back, whereas you are not afforded this luxury in a marathon. Best just to skate continuously up and down serp rd (or whereever) to improve your conditioning. Pacelining helps immensely with energy conservation, and if you can manage to get in one for some of your first marathon I'd say you were well ahead of most other marathon virgins, but don't beat yourself up if you don't, because as said your primary aim is to enjoy yourself and finish. Smile
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merten



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:29 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

This is quite a good read about outdoor racing: http://www.inlineplanet.com/2006-03/16-guideintro.html

The categories bit is for US skaters, but the points about race dynamics and pacelining (!) are very helpful to start. Having some of this in mind will also help make it an enjoyable first marathon, and keep you and the others safe out there.

Enjoy!
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ConeKicker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:46 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Van wrote:
Is it LIM you are talking about? If so, there are still 7 weeks to go which is plenty of time to increase your weekly milelage and improve your fitness. As Rick says, first marathon just make sure you enjoy the experience, though I find key to this is ensuring that you are in decent enough shape to skate the distance without killing yourself. I find streetskates are NOT good preparation for skating a marathon, as you never skate for more than a few minutes at a time before stopping where you can catch you breath back, whereas you are not afforded this luxury in a marathon. Best just to skate continuously up and down serp rd (or whereever) to improve your conditioning. Pacelining helps immensely with energy conservation, and if you can manage to get in one for some of your first marathon I'd say you were well ahead of most other marathon virgins, but don't beat yourself up if you don't, because as said your primary aim is to enjoy yourself and finish. Smile


Cheers Van.

Yes I am taking part in the London Inline Marathon on May 23. I'm hoping to, just as you say, enjoy the experience and possibly pick up a few tips from you guys for next time Smile

I'm trying to fit in a few longish skates although mainly on cycle paths which, in this area, are not ideal for skating. I'm also hoping to get a workout on the Preston UCL cycle track this month.

The paceline stuff will have to be a 'do I feel confident/fit enough' thing on the day. As a friend of mine said when I told him about my plans, 'that should be interesting' Smile

Finishing will do me just fine.

Thanks again Van

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ConeKicker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:52 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

merten wrote:
This is quite a good read about outdoor racing: http://www.inlineplanet.com/2006-03/16-guideintro.html

The categories bit is for US skaters, but the points about race dynamics and pacelining (!) are very helpful to start. Having some of this in mind will also help make it an enjoyable first marathon, and keep you and the others safe out there.

Enjoy!


Great article, thanks merten.

Your last line is one area that was of concern. I would hate to mess up and take another skater with me so I'll be trying hard to keep my mistakes to myself Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:21 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry - and do not feel put off by it. A chasing paceline is a group that works together to achieve a common goal, which is usually to reduce the time that is lost as much as possible. So speak to each other, help you along, and it will benefit everybody.

Note this does not count for any pacelines where podiums are given, or close to the finish, where all rules might very suddenly change, but not necessarily so. Often working together in a marathon can end up in exchanging details and further contact or even friendships.
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Van



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:07 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff. Like you this will be my first visit to LIM for a marathon, although I've done a few others before (don't have nearly as much experience as Rick or Merten I imagine). I scouted it at the weekend and did a few laps. The bad news is that it's a twisty, knackery, windswept circuit, and you'll have to do 28 laps that will make your head spin. The good news is that being such a short circuit, it should be easy to find a paceline to join onto as everyone will be in close proximity, albeit on differing laps. Just make sure you pace yourself- LIM has a reputation for being quite tough as far a marathons go (much harder than eg Berlin) and it's easy to set out too fast, blow up and not finish the distance.

Good luck, and hopefully we'll see you at the start (and finish) line!
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Howard



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:30 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Van wrote:
it's easy to set out too fast, blow up and not finish the distance


It's also easy to forget what lap you are on. Make sure you count them yourself Smile
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ConeKicker



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:39 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Van wrote:
Great stuff. Like you this will be my first visit to LIM for a marathon, although I've done a few others before (don't have nearly as much experience as Rick or Merten I imagine). I scouted it at the weekend and did a few laps. The bad news is that it's a twisty, knackery, windswept circuit, and you'll have to do 28 laps that will make your head spin. The good news is that being such a short circuit, it should be easy to find a paceline to join onto as everyone will be in close proximity, albeit on differing laps. Just make sure you pace yourself- LIM has a reputation for being quite tough as far a marathons go (much harder than eg Berlin) and it's easy to set out too fast, blow up and not finish the distance.

Good luck, and hopefully we'll see you at the start (and finish) line!


Thanks Van, I won't get to experience the circuit 'till the day before the marathon, when, I'm hoping, I may get to ride a couple of laps.

Sounds like it's going to be erm.. different (fun), look forward to seeing you guys there Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:41 am    Subject: Reply with quote

merten wrote:
Often working together in a marathon can end up in exchanging details and further contact or even friendships.


Sounds great, looking forward to it Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:46 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Howard wrote:

It's also easy to forget what lap you are on. Make sure you count them yourself Smile


I've tried hitting my watch lap counter 'race fashion' here where I live. I've found I forget to 'hit the button' on many dummy laps Smile  

I'm bringing my partner along for support and told her she will have to hold up a big white card with my lap number (boxing match style) each time I pass. She was not impressed so I guess I'll be thinking again Very Happy

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Rick



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:58 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a few different methods for keeping track. If you can do mental arithmatic and you keep consistent lap times you can divide your lap time into the amount of time the race has been on to work out your lap number.

If you can identify the leaders and know when they go past your you can add the number of times you have been lapped + 1 to the laps remaining on the lap board to work out your total remaining. Then when the lap board reaches zero you need to start counting down. Lap board is flipped when the leader passes.

Often a good idea to to a "safety" where you skate one more lap than you think you need to.

Don't rely on asking others around you.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:29 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:

Often a good idea to to a "safety" where you skate one more lap than you think you need to.

Don't rely on asking others around you.


Yup. Do a warm down lap. Then do another Wink
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