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How's your traffic sense?
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Mikey-two-Names



Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:43 am    Subject: How's your traffic sense? Reply with quote

Try this quiz on road positioning. It's obviously cycling, but I think quite a few of the situations apply to skating in the road too.

http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php

I'll bet some of you are surprised.
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Gav
Former British Record Holder


Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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Location: Maida Vale

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:10 am    Subject: Reply with quote

LOL!!  3 out of 9!  I'm a hazard...
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Erika



Joined: 09 Oct 2004
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Location: Lambeth/New Cross

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:45 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Gav wrote:
LOL!!  3 out of 9!  I'm a hazard...


Ditto!
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:58 am    Subject: Reply with quote

I got 7 out of 9 on a beta test of this quiz some months ago, but that was only because I read Cyclecraft by John Franklin, plus had the benefit of reading lots of very experienced cyclists posts about riding in traffic.

If you do cycle, I can't recommend cyclecraft strongly enough:

http://www.lesberries.co.uk/ccraft/ccraft.htm
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lemming



Joined: 05 Jan 2005
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Location: Reading, UK

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:33 am    Subject: Reply with quote

I was 3 / 9 too. Maybe it's something odd like that.  I've read the motorcycle roadcraft book which is probably a similar thing to your book Mike.  Fantastic.
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Hans
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Joined: 20 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:41 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Too dangerous to be let out
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Natasha



Joined: 09 Jul 2004
Posts: 2973
Location: Basingstoke

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:48 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I got a 6, thanks to the winter training I did with Mike in Beckenham. My main danger to myself and other road users is my zero sense of direction, however!
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Tim



Joined: 26 Jul 2004
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Location: leytonstone E11

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:08 pm    Subject: cycling Reply with quote

Ok now i know why i keep getting knocked off  Embarassed
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Rick



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:58 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Have to say that if you are an experienced traffic cylcist, by which I mean have biked for years in all types of traffic and weather conditions, then the advice given out here isn't going to change what you do as you know what works for you. However, if you don't then the read the reasoning behind the answers. It's not comprehensive but it is basically pretty sound advice.
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brandbarth



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:01 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

0 out of 9 first time, 8 out of 9 after switching to the "maximum road blocking" option. Cycle like that in germany and you will be eaten alive.

For example: cycling in the middle of the lane -> Police will stop you and ask if you are drunk...
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merten



Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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Location: Hamburg, N. Germany

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:58 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

2 of 9. Seems German cycling rules don't apply in the UK, huh?
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Christophe



Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:05 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

merten wrote:
2 of 9


ditto. Ooops...
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Etienne



Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Posts: 1696
Location: Central Paris

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:14 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

5 out of 9.
Cycling path mandatory or not... Am I wrong to think these are mandatory in France ? Or maybe there is a difference between a path separated from the road and a sidelane....
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:28 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Cycle lanes are not mandatory for cyclists to use here in the UK.  In fact since the accident rate is largely 3 times that of cycling on roads, it's usually best not to use the cycle lanes here.
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Duracell



Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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Location: ShepherdsBush (Work - Paddington/Heathrow)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:13 am    Subject: Reply with quote

ls_mike wrote:
Cycle lanes are not mandatory for cyclists to use here in the UK.
That's the ONLY question that I got 'right'. Shocked

I'm not sure that the advice to 'claim your lane' is so sound for skaters.  While you don't want to be within car-door-opening distance of parked cars*  in the view of both most drivers and the law, we have less right to be there than cyclists, and you're more likely to get someone deliberately trying to run you off the road or obstruct you than a bike is, if you stay right out in the centre of a lane.  I'm also partial to taking to the pavement when it's reasonably empty and the road is more dangerous than usual.  (For instance, narrow roads, especially busy ones, rough surfaces etc.)  Not an option you (legally) have on a bike.  So our 'grey' position in law has both advantages and disadvantages...

*You REALLY don't (unless, perhaps, your speed is low enough for the 'catch manoeuvre' to work, and you're supremely confident of your reflexes...)
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