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ed!
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| BigSteev wrote: |
| The brackets for Kryptonite D locks are shite. Much better to get one of those belt loop things to stick it through. |
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Sparky
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:01 pm Subject: |
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| dan_b wrote: |
| Sparky wrote: |
| I'm less of a fan of D locks so for me THIS is what I'd go for. I've one in constant use for well over a year (well Mozza has) and it is a good deal for £44. |
Just checking, is this the lock that disappeared along with your Condor? |
Unfortunately yes. |
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BigSteev
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ed!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:47 pm Subject: |
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Ohh...I see. Very cool! Thanks for that.
@Sparky, gutted to hear about your bike  It seems if they really want a bike, they'll get at it no matter what the lock or how it's locked. |
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Mikey-two-Names
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:59 pm Subject: |
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Sad for you Sparky.
Most cycling forums seem to rate D-locks above cable locks of any design for theft resistance. |
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Barrie
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:45 pm Subject: |
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| ed! wrote: |
| ...It seems if they really want a bike, they'll get at it no matter what the lock or how it's locked. |
Am I right in guessing it's just a case of having big enough bolt cutters?
Or do they bother to pick the locks?
( lock picking supposedly not that hard with a bit of practice ( resulting in the practitioner going out and buying much better locks for house and shed doors etc... ), according to one guy who wasn't too worried about getting wheel clamped... I was tempted to get myself a kit... an interesting hobby  (might need to be a locksmith to legally carry the kit around though...) ) |
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Simon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:40 pm Subject: |
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The two reports I looked at showed that D locks are the only way to go and that the Newyork and Abus granit X where the two beast locks.
Some of the cable locks were realy a wast of time. |
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ed!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:12 pm Subject: |
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| Barrie wrote: |
| ed! wrote: |
| ...It seems if they really want a bike, they'll get at it no matter what the lock or how it's locked. |
Am I right in guessing it's just a case of having big enough bolt cutters?
Or do they bother to pick the locks? |
No idea...there was the whole pick the lock with a Bic pen, for those that used the old style circular key (I forget what they're called), but they were soon replaced. |
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Howard
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:05 pm Subject: |
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| Barrie wrote: |
| ed! wrote: |
| ...It seems if they really want a bike, they'll get at it no matter what the lock or how it's locked. |
Am I right in guessing it's just a case of having big enough bolt cutters?
Or do they bother to pick the locks? |
Bolt cutters if the lock is a chain, cable or weak type D lock.
If bolt cutters can't be used it's possible to freeze then smash the lock with some kind of pressurised liquid gas (i.e. lighter fluid + hammer).
This is unlikely to happen in broad daylight however.
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Never leave your bike outside locked up over night. No matter how many or what type of lock you have "secured" it with. This includes underground car-parks & at work.
Some useful deterrents for the ultra-paranoid:
Use two locks (strong D plus cable / chain. It's rare for thieves to carry the tools nessesary to crack both)
Remove the saddle (incomplete bike=less appealing) |
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Sparky
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:25 pm Subject: |
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OK so it's that time again.
I have a shiny road bike again which I will not be wanting to leave locked for any great length of time and after my last loss I bought a New York D lock but I would like a secondary lock for extra security.
I've lost my confidence with armored cable locks so was thinking of getting a heavy duty padlock and chain, what are peoples thoughts/ experience of this and does anybody have any recommendations?
cheers |
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ed!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:47 pm Subject: |
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http://www.lfgss.com/thread17938.html
FWIW, at work (outdoor racks with public access), I use two different brands of D-locks (Abus and Kryptonite). I've never been a big fan of chains as they're just a bit awkward to carry around (I need to lose more weight to comfortably wear them around my waist  ).
FYI - Parker International do the locks you mentioned a few bob cheaper. |
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Sparky
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:58 pm Subject: |
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| Cool thanks Ed!. |
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Howard
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:29 pm Subject: |
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You don't need another heavy duty lock.
Use a Krypto Evo Mini or Forgettaboutit around seat tube and rear wheel attached to shefield stand with krypto cable around front wheel.
For extra security place a motocycle alarmed disc lock on the chain ring.
Good combo because:
not overly heavy
leaves very little leverage room inside d-lock
will require thief to mash the frame if they want to brake the lock
Positions lock very low making it difficult to cut
Your bike will be the best locked in the stand
disc lock is loud enough to cause pain and prevents bike from being ridden
Only consider if:
your frame has skinny steel tubing - fat alu tubes will not leave enough clearance for the lock and rear wheel (although NY3000 lock may work)
You don't intend to leave the bike out all night
If you get a heavy duty chain and padlock make sure the padlock is stronger than the strongest d-lock you can buy....otherwise what's the point? Thief brakes padlock, takes bike.
those krypto padlocks are much weaker than the forgettaboutit so don't bother.
Don't wear chains around your body - if you stack it the chain will make a right mess of you.
Oh, and get insurance  |
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