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Richmond on Saturday 28th May
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:54 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

You lot ought to MTFU!!!
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_gj3000_



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:04 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Went for the session later at 4pm. It still rained towards the end, but I was warming down by then.

Did hill reps. It was clear I need to do more hill reps! I am not sure if my fitness will get me up that Le Mans hill!  Embarassed
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george



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:26 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Oh man what happened to all of you??

I was at Richmond by 8.30, it rained a little bit as I skated up to the Park - I waited by some shops for 5min and then thought I'll just give it a go.  I started skating in the Park around 8.45 and it was never wet.  Dry all 75 kilometres.  But maybe I just lucked out!!!   Laughing

Hope you all had good skating and cycling anyways.

All in all, my session was really tough.  I was already in pain about 20min into the first hour!  I guess it's during those sessions where it's really tough and you are hitting the pain barrier, that one grows and gets stronger !?
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dan_b



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:07 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a strong opinion on the comparative difficulty of the Dunlop hill and the steep uphill on the short loop at Richmond?  They seem to me to be in the same ballpark, though it's a while since I skated at Le Mans and my memory my be playing tricks.
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_gj3000_



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:09 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Which way round are you skating the short loop to make this comparison?
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ed!
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:13 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I'd say gradient wise, it's pretty close...though I think Richmond is ever so slightly steeper and made harder because the surface towards the top is pretty rough.
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EdP



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:22 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I feel like the Dunlop hill is a considerably longer climb although I agree that the gradient could well be comparable.

This is terribly unscientific, but the downhill at Le Mans is considerably faster and longer (right?), so the uphil must be longer?

Edit: Examination of maps confirms that I am indeed talking nonsense - the distances look comparable.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:29 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I'd say dunlop feels longer. Richmond surface is worse.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:42 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather have the nice surface!
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:06 am    Subject: Reply with quote

_gj3000_ wrote:
I'd say dunlop feels longer. Richmond surface is worse.
+1

Last year I was doing start/finish line to the Dunlop Bridge in 2m15 ish.

Today I did the first speed bump to the first peak ( upright tree stump on the right just before Ballet School ) in about 1m45, although one rep was timed from 2nd speed bump to the same peak in 1m25 ( I forgot to press the start button at the first speed bump Razz ).

I think I'm a bit slower at the moment than last years Le Mans, but on the other hand I was pacing to stop at the top, not 6km or so later...

Maybe it's best for you fitter people to push through to the 2nd peak after the Ballet School?
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Fred_Paris
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:34 am    Subject: Reply with quote

It's too short if you go the normal direction, but taking it from the other side would be better, doesn't look like much but's a difficult one.
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_gj3000_



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:40 am    Subject: Reply with quote

For that direction (counter-clockwise) I tend to go from the white fence/gate posts along the approach road to the top of the second peak (there is a funny looking tree on the left).

Still think it is a bit shorter, but the main difference being that the middle bit with the rough section throws your rhythm...

Will try the other direction Fred suggested
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:25 am    Subject: Reply with quote

_gj3000_ wrote:
For that direction (counter-clockwise) I tend to go from the white fence/gate posts along the approach road to the top of the second peak (there is a funny looking tree on the left).

Still think it is a bit shorter, but the main difference being that the middle bit with the rough section throws your rhythm...
The rough bit isn't as bad as I remembered, going straight up the left hand side.  Need to dig a bit deeper for a couple of strides but that's about it.
Perhaps not unlike when the chicane on the Dunlop Hill was a bit chewed up, or if you need to weave around some people?

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Will try the other direction Fred suggested
How'd you get on there Fred?
Do you think the steep part is steep enough?
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