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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:40 am    Subject: Traf. Sq. - Wednesday 24th November Reply with quote

Skills and drills tonight, meeting at 19.30.  It's a lovely surface to skate on.

Forecast is for dry and cold, very cold tonight!
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Van



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:45 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Hope there's no leftovers from the student riots?
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Sparky



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:50 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

It seems very focused on the Paliament Square end of Whitehall rather than the Square so fingers crossed.
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ed!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:08 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid I'm a no for this evening Sad
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:08 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone fancy meeting for a ( hot! ) drink and/or snack beforehand?

I've no idea where mind... somewhere on the Strand I perhaps... with nearby bike stands...
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Sparky



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:15 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike that was very good for me, I really hips and edges reminder.
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:00 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Yup, cheers Mike.

I think I worked out my problem going one footed on the inside leg/outside edge... it feels like lots of supination, leading to my ankle not being in a strong enough position.

I now remember working this out last winter and not getting far with trying to rectify it, but I seemed to get a lot further tonight.

Watching Sparky he did the same a few times at least.  I don't know if others do... I've got a feeling it might a bad habit from quads ( well it might be a good habit on quads, I don't know! ).
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:44 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm wondering if your front foot pronation on tight turns is not muscle memory from quad skating, Sparky?  Barrie, it sounds like you're talking about the opposite, too much supination?

I feel that a tiny amount of supination is perfect, but the actual edge is mostly a function of leaning into the turn sufficiently with your whole body.  Pronation is not good on inlines though, as it generates loads of rolling resistance and will fight the turn.
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Alan



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:24 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the session Mike. I think I got something out of it (besides the bruises)
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:36 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Mikey-two-Names wrote:
Yeah, I'm wondering if your front foot pronation on tight turns is not muscle memory from quad skating, Sparky?  Barrie, it sounds like you're talking about the opposite, too much supination?
I'm talking about my inside foot being on too much of an outside edge, due to my ankle being bent over ( well, bent under I suppose ).  If I just coast it's fine-ish AFAIK, but as soon as I push, over it goes.

Sparky did the same about 50% of the bit of time that time I was watching him for it, but not at all the other times, all or nothing... I've no idea if that's common for him or not.

Anyway, if I straighten my ankle, it feels much stronger and more stable ( unsurpisingly I think ), so I think my lack of confidence doing that outside edge carve one footed is largely due to the lack of strength and stability... so a lot of re-learning to do there this winter...  I found it pretty hard to commit to in that position.
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:35 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you want the wheels/frame and your shin to be a mostly straight line because it's stronger. Sparky was originally doing the opposite to you and what you saw may have been him working on correcting it.
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Sparky



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:04 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Turning clockwise leading with my right foot I am much less comfortable finding the correct amount of supranational.

My right ankle is definitely my weaker ankle which I'm intending to strenghten this year.
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