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Why Do You Speedskate
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Adam B(GMF)



Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:31 am    Subject: Why Do You Speedskate Reply with quote

I am curious about why people carry on with speedskating competively when it would seem that unless you started at an early age, and/or devote a very large part of your life you are not going to win anything and are going to put yourself through a lot of painful training and hard races. Yet we keep on doing it!

Personally I know that I do it to test myself and I'm the only person I'm competing against -but i have been there when I am keen to find out where I placed or am disappointed if I didn't give it 100%. I think that I need to focus on the fun aspect more and be happy with the results based on the amount of time I train and the amount of time I want to devote to training above other things. I also have to admit to having an addiction to endorphins.

So why do other people do it?
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Rick



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:41 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much same here. The battle is largely against yourself. However, within the club you can race against other people who have come in to it late and you can spur each other on to greater personal achievements. Speed skating alone is much more difficult.
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:47 am    Subject: Reply with quote

I like lots of stuff about speedskating:
  • The self improvement thing
  • A marathon is like a mirror you hold up to yourself, you get to learn things about yourself you can't find out any other way.  Both physical fitness, technique, and mental too.
  • Endorphine boosts, this is getting bad now, I'm actively seeking out hills to hurt my body with, for example.
  • The excitement of such a big race.  It's like a funny kind of NTWNS.
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Adam B(GMF)



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:50 am    Subject: Reply with quote

ls_mike wrote:
I like lots of stuff about speedskating:

  • A marathon is like a mirror you hold up to yourself, you get to learn things about yourself you can't find out any other way.  Both physical fitness, technique, and mental too.
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Yeah - you do get sort of a meditative effect in a marathon
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Tim



Joined: 26 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:42 am    Subject: speed skating Reply with quote

For me skating is my ultimate way to relax and have a whole lot of fun.
Taking part in these marathons is for me not about winning as i know there is not a chance, but having as much fun and challenging myself to do better and better with each competition.
Skating as part of a team is a joy as like has been said, you can coax your teammates into surpassing themselves again and again.
I think that without our team i would not carry on speed skating as there would not be anybody to share the experience with.
An experience shared is an experience doubled.

Hmm..not too deep that was it ? Laughing
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Hans
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:54 am    Subject: Reply with quote

Too many to list… but the shortlist would be

    The thrill of competition - the nerves before the start, the anxiety, I just love it
    Hard training and the pursuit of better technique
    Racing against yourself each time and finding out more about yourself each time
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Gav
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:20 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

It's all about the challenge. The challenge to myself of proving that I can do this - starting from nothing (remember I only started 3 years ago minus 6 months of broken leg!), and building it up to a point where you're proud of what you've achieved.

If you do want to push it, you're right, it is a question of dedication. How much are you willing to commit to your personal challenge.
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Amar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:55 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

all of the above, but not having experienced enough marathons or speedskating trials, perhaps a little presumptuous of me.

in the end...

- the ability to move at great speed under my own energy. what a rush.
- the knowledge that my technique will continue to improve. there are always things to learn.
- the knowledge that it's good for me, and about 4-gazillion times better than watching TV.
- the community and friends i've made and will continue to make.
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merten



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:37 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, I'm 25 now so I hope to get fast enough to at least be competitive at a regional level. I'm sure there will neither be time nor ability Smile to go anywhere further.

Speedskating is probably the fastest way you can go without any helping machinery (even bikes have gearshifts - bearings and wheels do not count as they only help maintain a speed you achieved). So this certainly has its aspects. And it is the most attractive way of streetskating for me, which is important as I do not want to skate for racing alone.
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dan_b



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:03 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

merten wrote:

Speedskating is probably the fastest way you can go without any helping machinery


I'm not sure you can really claim that there's no help from machinery, unless you push exclusively backwards.  It's a simple machine, but a machine nonetheless

OK, I'm nitpicking.  I was trained for it.
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Adam B(GMF)



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:04 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

merten wrote:

Speedskating is probably the fastest way you can go without any helping machinery (even bikes have gearshifts - bearings and wheels do not count as they only help maintain a speed you achieved)..

wheels are a machine
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Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:52 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Plus your skates have gearing anyway.
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merten



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:59 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
pe·dan·tic

LOL. OK, maybe the term is not 100% accurate, but - you know what I mean Smile
Mike: Why do skates have gearing? Well OK - why do normal skates have? This one does: http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=219
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Mikey-two-Names



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:09 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

Your skates have gearing - it's the toe out angle since they are really a simple wedge machine.  That's why you have to open your toes more to start and to go up hills, and close off the angle to go fast.  They're just infinitely variable within their limits.

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dan_b



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:10 pm    Subject: Reply with quote

A skate converts a high force exerted over a short distance (the sideways push) into a lower force over a much longer distance (propelling you forwards).  Which is conceptually the same thing as gearing does.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine - in their terms it's basically a wedge, though it's being used "backwards" from how wedges are usually used
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